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The contents of the Scrip cash dispenser page were merged into ATM on 6 April 2019. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history. |
On 11 November 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Automated teller machine to ATM. The result of the discussion was moved. |
South Korea but not North Korea
[edit]I noticed that there was a photo of a South Korean machine but not of a north Korean machine. This shows an attitude of disdain for North Korea as if it didn't exist or didn't matter. This happens too often in Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geofffeldman (talk • contribs) 18:23, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
- Provide a picture of a North Korean machine with proper documentation and it can be shown. Any bias against North Korean information would be likely only because most of us have not been there. Nutster (talk) 04:41, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of the above person in this article? He holds the patent for the ATM and is generally considered to have invented it.
Here is a reference;
History.com Editors (August 21, 2018). "First ATM opens for business". HISTORY. A&E Television Networks. Retrieved October 14, 2018. Several inventors worked on early versions of a cash-dispensing machine, but Don Wetzel, an executive at Docutel, a Dallas company that developed automated baggage-handling equipment, is generally credited as coming up with the idea for the modern ATM. Wetzel reportedly conceived of the concept while waiting on line at a bank.
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has generic name (help) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Puzzledvegetable (talk • contribs) 00:16, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- I think that you might have missed the mention Automated teller machine#Docutel in the United States (1969), where Donald Wetzel's contribution is and was mentioned in the first line. Klbrain (talk) 11:31, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
Merge proposal
[edit]Supporting the 2017 merge proposal. Scrip cash dispenser is a barely-referenced article which described what seems to be a rare variant of an ATM; where the automated teller is remote from the location where cash is dispensed. It seem reasonable that it would fit as a section here, rather than having a stand-alone article. Klbrain (talk) 11:23, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
Time period context!
[edit]These machines really took off and became universal in the US and in western Europe during the mid-1980s. Why isn't this recognized in the article? True, they were present in the 1970s, but they comparatively used to are are degree.Dogru144 (talk) 03:47, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- The first interactive ATM is claimed by Lloyd's Bank in 1972 yet Barclays are credited with having one in 1967....?
- I remember the pre-paid cards at both Barclays and Nat West early 1977 so fully interactive ATMs in 1967 is unlikely.
- [1] HuttonIT (talk) 09:37, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
Carbon-14
[edit]I'm curious about the statement that C-14 is used to prevent fraud, which at first sight sounds unlikely. How does this work (I don't see any reference to it in article Carbon-14). --Brian Josephson (talk) 13:00, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
Invent anglohispanic
[edit]The first ATM in the world was invented in Cieza ( Murcia, Spain) by the English Bernard Brunton (London) and the Ciezan Luis Anaya about 100 years ago (1913). Bernardo Brunton and Luis Anaya were the inventors of a curious money-dispensing machine patented in 1913. This box was designed to save the family economy "it distributed daily the amount proportional to the salary that was received regularly, thus establishing a balance in spending" .
http://www.tecnologiaycultura.net/investiga/PlacAutocajero.JPG (in spanish) https://www.laopiniondemurcia.es/buzzeando/2022/10/25/invento-murcia-utilizas-dias-saberlo-dv-77661467.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.174.181.71 (talk) 10:48, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
Patent mess
[edit]The last paragraph of the section Docutel in the United States, has a mess of bare links to US Patents, as well as text that should be hidden referring to Wayback Machine archives of these links. Please fix this. Paulmlieberman (talk) 20:52, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Change topic to ATM (the short form)
[edit]please change topic to short form (atm) 🫡 183.87.191.150 (talk) 16:16, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
"Hole in the wall"
[edit]The intro says it's a UK term for ATM, but there are no references. Maybe it should be deleted?
An older Talk page links to some video, but that wasn't much to go by (and the video is no longer online).
I found a Daily Mail article that says "hole-in-the-wall cashpoint". But there it serves only as an adjective. galenIgh 11:58, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia
[edit]- Redirect Automated teller machine
31.166.64.53 (talk) 14:12, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 11 November 2024
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) JJPMaster (she/they) 16:58, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Automated teller machine → ATM – WP:COMMONNAME. See Talk:ATM (disambiguation)#Requested move 4 November 2024. Theparties (talk) 21:49, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support. I agree that "ATM" is the WP:COMMONNAME (and so does the ATM Industry Association), noting ATM now targets here. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:53, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support. I would say that this passes WP:ACROTITLE:
the subject is known primarily by its abbreviation and that abbreviation is primarily associated with the subject ... In general, if readers somewhat familiar with the subject are likely to only recognise the name by its acronym, then the acronym should be used as a title.
Most financial institutions used by the average person seem to only use "ATM" and not the full "automated teller machine". Zzyzx11 (talk) 15:14, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment/Weak Support: I had considered a move request of this scope, but I opened the discussion mentioned above to address disambiguation. I did not expect the discussion to have such an amount of support, with some requesting this article to be titled ATM. While I'm not opposed to this move, I think we should address long-term significant per WP:PT2, seeing as how uses include a scientific unit and abbreviations.
- 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 15:45, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with Zzyzx11, I am not aware of any bank or financial institute that calls an ATM an automated teller machine whatsoever. I believe most people do not even know what ATM stands for. 70.25.127.2 (talk) 16:22, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
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